a legit convo on God

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Her

I cant fathom one man being "in charge" of all of this

which leads me to think that he may very well be a fictional man created to give people faith in times of struggle

if that's true, then why do i find myself sitting on my porch praying for your mom tonight??

12:53amMe

its not one man, he is in all of us and aggregately we are comprised of him, we are his machine to view the world, we are mutually beneficial to each other

12:53amHer

i dont understand that

12:54amMe

people have needed faith in times of struggle... we wouldn't be here otherwise

12:54amHer

if he is in us and we are his machines, why do we pray?

12:54amMe

think of the big bang as the explosion of potential energy

12:55amMe

as the unconscious universe dreamt, all the molecules coalesced into forms that would eventually create what we are today

prayer is a funny thing, most people look at it as corny, but meditation is the exact same thing

we all must center ourselves at times, detach our physical minds from this physical world and get in touch with the force that has always been

12:58amMe

detachment is essential to exude divine qualities... those lovers of sights and sounds that are only bound to material objects are vain, selfish, hardly useful to God becuase he can't learn anything from their experiences... I think that when this universe ends, all the humanly experiences will be gathered by the universal subconscious and be embedded into every molecule so that the next big bang will render a species more capable of creating a heaven on earth.

12:59amHer

wow...thats a pretty neat thought if that's what really will happen

so praying is a way of centering one's self?

1:00amMe

Hawking's shows and other physicists have proven black holes and the possibility of wormholes, that could very well lead to other universes

1:00amHer

yeah i saw that on one of his episodes

so when YOU say you believe in God, you mean you believe that he is embedded in you?

1:01amMe

I think prayer is exactly that, some just take it to extremes by imagining a person sitting there listening and making decisions regarding their personal life, which is somewhat narcissitic, I believe Karma is the prevailing force

"when the day is done, what you get is the sum, of what you took out, from what you put in..." 311

Yes, of course, its a duality. I have my own physical mind, and 90% of my brain I can't control where the SUBCONSCIOUS dwells, and that when we dream it is our minds exposed to that force...

1:03amHer

So what do you believe happens when you die?

1:04amMe

I believe that we don't die and go to Heaven; I believe that the goal for God is to create a world where all the senses operate under the universal laws without any hinderance, therefore creating a Heaven on Earth. The subconscious is eternal and when we die we will return there to ponder, but I don't believe we will have any sensual experiences... that is what this life is for. The best we might be able to do is dream...and as you know a dream is not a very accurate depiction of reality.

1:05amMe

I believe we vibrate on a different level... all we are is a mass of vibrations, tiny masses vibrating with such force to create this little bit of mass to encapsulate a tiny piece of God so that he can perceive the world in which he dreamt up

which is why he relies on us, and we on him because without his genius we would be a blob of goo

1:06amHer

we come from a blob of goo

1:06amMe

without us, all he can do is dream, but through us he can SENSE

1:07amMe

and our physical mind naturally senses too, but if we sense too much to block out our subsensual force, we become blind and deaf to the coincidences that this universe can create for us

and prayer is like submitting subconscious requests, but are only impactful if a person's mind is detached

but the universe hears subconscious requests and positive energy has a way of circulating back to the source

in one way or another

1:10amMe

by glob of goo I simply mean the primordial balls of gas floating around the universe before gravity set upon them causing them to form, which caused heat and the production of the elements in our body

1:10amHer

thats what you meant by karma.

1:12amMe

yes, karma... those souls who keep everything for themselves and put nothing back into the universe might gain on the short term, but their lives are in vain for their experiences are not added to the vat of experience that is to be infused into each particle at the next beginning of the universe

Her

how did all this come to you? I feel so ignorant and just walking around deaf and dumb when it comes to my spirituality and purpose in living

1:16amMe

thousands of pages of reading and thousands of hours of pondering and steven hawking and Hyperspace books and trying to cope with dad's death...

and just writing my thoughts down all the time so that i knew what i thought

1:17amHer

hmm

1:17amMe

it never just came to me

1:17amHer

well u have really valid and realistic thoughts

1:18amMe

thank you very much and i'm very flattered you are showing this much interest

1:18amHer

this stuff with your mom has me a mess

1:18amMe

there has to be a fine line between reality, spirituality, science, and faith

1:19amHer

i agree

1:19amMe

you can't count any one out completely

those who don't integrate scientific findings into antiquity are doing their religion an injustice

1:20amHer

s***** keeps checking in with me making sure we dont need anything...bc of whats going on with your mom

she said, it's in God's hands now...thats what made me start thinking

1:20amMe

she is doing fine now, got to sleep after some pills and is sustaining good oxygen levels, she just needs to keep hold of her anxiety

1:22amMe

people who say its in Gods hands are most of the time too quick to give that as an answer, in some ways they are right, but in some ways they are wrong. no one is cutting strings in her life, like the greek gods. its simple to me. the extreme forces and disasterous occurences that created this world in the first place and are why we are here are still at work and there is nothing we can do but enjoy the time we have

1:24amMe

it took billions and billions of explosions between matter and antimatter in the beginning, and only a little matter was leftover in the end which is what we are made of. my mom will be fine this time, but she has to be more careful

1:26amHer

we should talk about this stuff more often. i need put more thought into this. and i think figuring this out will help me cope with a lot of things...including death

1:27amMe

i agree, and it has helped me indefinitely... my temperment, my ability to cope with things, i just think it has made me more easy going and less apt to get worked up over little things

1:27amHer

hahaha

"more easy going and less apt to get worked up over little things" i dont have a problem with that

1:28amMe

cuz all things really are infintessimily small in the scope of creation

marcus aurelius has taught me a lot about the vanity of seeking fame and how all lives are but an echo in all mankind's time... let alone the petty daily occurrences

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